By: Gen. Jim – 6/3/26
In this article I want to deal with #9: (of 12) question:
“Anything NEGATIVE about Deborah Green, James Green, Peter Green, Joshua Green, Stacy Miller (aka Gracious River), any of the River parents (Amos, Ruth, Timothy, Victoria, Sabbath) or any of the other adults at the camp.”
Remember, a special FBI therapist from back east was flown in to NM to interview our 11 children (4-14 years old). The Sheriff’s dept. had 12 questions for the FBI to ask each child.
In Hill’s “Oracle’s Daughter” there are some ex-ACMTC members that told the NM authorities that we ABUSED these kids – physically, sexually, emotionally/mentally. I now present #9 for consideration. I’ll use only the first initial of each kid.
1 – “C”, age 4:
Video 2: The therapist (‘T’) asks him what happens when God gets mad, or when Momboo (what the kids called Gen. Deborah) gets mad, and he does not respond. The ‘T’ reiterates C won’t get in trouble with her (female FBI) & continues asking what happens if ‘your mom does something wrong,’ C says Momboo tells her to do stuff, but he doesn’t know what she does.
2 – “D”: age 11: No record of what he said.
3 – “E”: age 14: No record of what he said.
4 – “E”: age 13: (sister of “E”) No record.
5 – “I”: age 7: “”
6 – “J”: age 11: “”
7 – “J”: age 9: “”
8 – “J”: age 7: “”
9 – “N”: age 9: “”
10 – “P”: age 5: “”
11 – “Z”: age 9: “”
As you can see, not a single kid had anything to report, which tells us that nothing serious happened in camp, despite what some EX-ACMTC members told the authorities
#1: “Anything that hurts us or makes any of our people look bad.”
1 – “C”: age 4: No statement.
2 – “D”: age 11: “”
3 – “E”: age 13:
The ‘T’ asks about E’s future plans; how E thinks about marriage, & how that works at the camp. He talks about people who just come into the camp and sometimes they get married. The Generals & everyone will help put the wedding together for them.
4 – “E”: age 13:
Video 7: The ‘T’ asks, ‘do you know the grownups have ranks, do the kids have ranks too?’ E replies (with the ‘T’ asking questions) when they get to a certain age, usually 12 (Jr. rank for kids) years old…; that she doesn’t know all of the ranks; you get pins & proud of being in the army. The ‘T’ asks how you gain the next rank, E replies more responsibilities, the different work, nothing special you have to do. Conversation ends.
(note: Our character assassins should study the Boy Scouts / Girl Scouts: They have uniforms & ranks! When I was very young, I was a Cub Scout, which ranked below Eagle Scout. Are we to call them a “dangerous Cult”?)
5 – “I”: age 7: No comment.
6 – “J” – age 11:
Video 1: The ‘T’ asks how things are going at the new house; they get on the topic of J almost breaking his hand while he was rollerblading back at camp, that is swelled up for a few days then went back down, they put a cast around it to keep it protected but then he says, ‘yeah because you know me… I get into fights’ jokingly, that they’re play fights & he taunts his brother to get into a fight with him, because if he went to public school he would want to know how to fight. (note: today’s schools have mass-shootings!)
Video 1 cont.:
The ‘T’ asks what kind of things he likes to do, J says watch movies, westerns; anything else he likes, he says guns & knives. The ‘T’ says lots of boys like that, what kind do you like? J says 9mm, his grandpa has it; ‘T’ asks what grandpa does with it & J says go on long hikes & there are bears so he brings it along, then tells a story about one time grandpa & grandma didn’t bring it & two brown bears were sitting on the road.
(note: the Grandpa and Grandma the kids are referring to are myself and Deborah. This 9mm was given to me by Mike Brandon’s father (Calif.) for the sole purpose of protecting our kids and ourselves.) We had 2 bears climb into our kitchen. We also had a mountain lion hanging around. We also had rattle snakes (I was bitten twice as a kid in Florida. – see chapter 4 of Oracle’s Daughter, p. 30 where Hill mentions this; the OD I have has 319 pages. Other books have more so this diamondback rattlesnake bit may not appear on the same page).
Video 1 cont.:
Following the notes from Enoch, J states the only people he remembers are his cousins Ben & Aaron, they wanted to move to go see their dad who lives in Grants. The ‘T’ asks if J thinks they were happy living ‘there’, J says they were happy living at our place, they just missed their dad.
7 – “J”: age 9: Nothing said.
8 – “J”: age 7:
Video 3: The ‘T’ asks who are the bosses at camp, who is in charge, J says the Generals Momboo & Gramps. She asks how they (the conversation ends).
9 – “N”: age 9: No comment
10 – “P”: age 5: “”
11 – “Z”: age 9: “”
Video 2: ‘T’ asks what happens when someone gets hurt, Z says they don’t take the people to the hospital; ‘T’ asks what happens when someone breaks an arm or something really bad, Z says then they take them to a hospital, that they take the person themselves.
End
#12: Anything that helps us, or makes any of our people look GOOD:
1 – “C”: age 4: no comment
2 – “D”: age 11:
Video 4: The ‘T’ asks what if someone wants to leave the camp, D says then they can leave.
Video 5: The ‘T’ asks what happens when Momboo &/or Grandpa are mad; D says he hasn’t seen them mad before.
Video 5 cont.: The ‘T’ asks about rubbing Grandpa’s feet, D says sometimes he does, that grandpa stands all day at the Native American market. Grandpa doesn’t rub his feet back.
Assistant Notes: Audio 1: D is resistant to answer any of Det. Chavez’ questions, spending most of the time asking who his parents are; they do not get past this question. Chavez tries several ways to PERSUADE D to tell him, but D is quiet. Chavez ends the recording.
[Note: this dirty cop no one likes. He tried to get several children & adults to confess to something that was not true. All ACMTC members thought that Detective Chavez himself was a child molester!!!]
3 – “E”: age 14: video 4:
The ‘T’ asks what happens when the kids do something bad, maybe break one of the 10 Commandments? E explains the parents sit with the kid & they pray with them & ask God for forgiveness.
Assistant Notes: Videos 1-5: Video 2 (aka video 4) The ‘T’ asks him if he knows about someone at the camp who had burned their fingers really bad; E didn’t know what she was talking about, but it sounded like something she was trying to get info from him.
Video 3: E talks about Brian (aka Joseph – Enoch’s dad; note: we did not rename Brian, he said God told him he was to take the name “Joseph”).
E cont.: he (Brian) was violent, threatened people (those people are gone now too). E doesn’t know what the threats were. (note: while Brian Miller blames us for Enoch’s death (flu in 2014), he left our camp leaving his wife & 5 kids for us to take care of. He never sent a red cent of support, only cursed us over the phone many times – we have all his calls recorded!)
Video 4: (aka video 2): The ‘T’ asks if they’ve ever had kids that weren’t living with them before come to the community & then stayed. E said no.
Video 4 (aka video 2 cont.) The ‘T’ asks about birth. The women give birth at the camp because they’re too far from a hospital. (note: all the women wanted a home-birth. Is it a crime for women to give birth outside a hospital???)
4 – “E”: age 13: video 2:
If they want to stay, they can. If they want to leave, they can. They (the Generals) even help buy bus tickets for them if they want to leave. They have their reasons; nothing bad happens there (in camp). E reiterates these points in video 6.
Video 4: The ‘T’ asks about how meals go. E explains there’s a kitchen crew who does the cleaning, everyone eats together, and if any of the kids want to help clean up they do. No one is forced. (note: not what, Miracle, Jamie and others have said. They just lied!)
Video 5: The ‘T’ asks how things are handled when someone breaks a rule or one of the 10 Commandments. E replied that they talk to God about it & apologize to God.
Assistant Notes:
Video 3: The ‘T’ asks about what kind of things E has heard about child abuse, sex abuse. the ‘T’ asks how E knows what sex abuse is & she said messing around with kids. All the things they said are lies & they just want to get them (adults) in trouble.
Video 7: The ‘T’ says that some of the kids talked about rubbing Grandpa’s feet, & E says, ‘yeah we’d rub his feet sometimes just to be nice; we see him as a grandpa, just doing what anyone would want to do for their grandpa’; The ‘T’ asks ‘who would rub his feet?’, E replied, ‘any kid who wanted to.’ The ‘T’ asks if anything else gets sore, or if he asks for them to rub anything else for him like his back, & E says No! Then the ‘T’ asks if anything happens when the kids are tired, if he does anything for them. E says no, it’s just because grandpa is an older man.
The conversation continues:
At the very end of video 7, a gentleman walks in & wants to talk to E, he asks E, ‘Do you remember me?’ & she nods yes, then it cuts off. That is the last video. I’m not sure who that was that E recognized.
5 – “I”: age 7: video 1:
The ‘T’ asks what his favorite thing is about where he lives, I says the adults protect him; they keep watch over him & stuff.
Video 4: The ‘T’ asks if anyone has touched or looked at his private parts. I says he’d tell them not to do that & he would tell his dad or another adult. the ‘T’ asks if he’s seen anyone else’s parts, kids seeing each other’s parts, adult’s seeing each other’s parts, if someone has shown him their parts, or done something to his body that they said to keep a secret, I’s answers NO! to all of these. If something did happen, he would tell his mom & dad.
Video 4: The ‘T’ asks about rubbing Grandpa’s feet, I says Grandpa just asks & they do it; any of the kids; he doesn’t rub anything else; just his feet.
Ass. Notes: none written.
6 – “J”: age 11: Video 2:
The ‘T’ asks about body safety, where are the parts on your body that people aren’t supposed to look at or touch, J says private parts; ‘T’ asks where are your private parts or what do you do with them, I responds go to the bathroom; ‘T’ asks if anyone has even touched his private parts, J says never, that no one has ever showed him their private parts (boys or girls). What would you do if any of those things happened, J said run off & go tell somebody, but J said he wouldn’t tell anybody. ‘T’ asks who does J trust the most over there (camp), J says everybody. The ‘T’ asks if anyone has told him about being touched on their private parts, or else see anyone get their parts touched, J responds NO!; the ‘T’ asks what would he do if you ever saw that happen & J said he would tell a person.
Assistant Notes: Audio 1: At the end, J asks “can I please go now?” Chavez: Sure. Hold on a second, ok? And then the audio cuts out.
7 – “J”: age 9: video 2:
The ‘T’ asks if someone wants to leave at the camp, J says then (sic) the just get to leave. ‘T’ asks if they get in trouble for leaving. J says no & explains that Momboo (Gen. Deborah) buys them a bus ticket; if they leave, they can come back. J says Sabbath came back (ACMTC soldier), didn’t know why she left.
Video 3: The ‘T’ asks about Grandpa have his feet rubbed, J says yes, there’s nowhere else he asks to be rubbed.
Assistant Notes: Audio 1: J sat quietly after stating her name to Chavez. It was a short audio.
8 – “J”: age 7: video 3:
The ‘T’ asked if there are things J doesn’t like to do with Momboo, J replies no, they never hit me. the ‘T’ asked if they’ve ever hit anyone, J responds No!
Video 4: The ‘T’ asks about people having to rub grandpa’s feet, J says we just rub his feet. The ‘T’ asks who, J says people, they don’t have to. The ‘T’ asks how come they do it, J says because they want to. The ‘T’ asks if he likes to rub his feet, J says yes. The ‘T’ asks if grandpa rubs Joel’s feet, he says No!
Video 3: The ‘T’ asks if he remember Phoebe & Glory ( the crippled lady), J asks “is that the crippled lady & the black lady?” (see PX5 Files for their profiles). The ‘T’ says I don’t know I haven’t met them, tell me about them, J says they turned their back from God; they left camp, stopped doing God’s duties.
9 – “N”: age 9: Video 1: (talked about being whipped & spanked) N says but my grandma she does not live in the camp, she does whip me with a metal whip, she’s not nice. She’s not in the camp; we went to visit & my mom & everybody there & we were staying there & they abused me, they says they’re Christians but they weren’t not in this place in Wichita. His mom didn’t whip him, his grandma did.
Why hasn’t this woman been investigated? She is Sabbath’s mom, avowed enemy of the Generals & ACMTC. I know Detective Chavez is friends with our enemies. He wishes the WHIPPING with a metal whip had been Gen. Deborah. It was a little after X-mas (2025) that N’s sister, Sarah, committed suicide while living back in Wichita, KS, under her grandma’s influence, not ours.
“N” continues: The ‘T’ tries to come back to this & ask about what the metal thing is she uses to whip, but N gets quiet & says he doesn’t wasn’t to talk about that one, she asks how come, he says I don’t know I just don’t feel like it.
[note: “J” & “N” are sons of Sabbath, whose mother – the one “N” talks about, has made up lies on us for a long time. So, WHO is the ABUSER, Deborah or N’s grandma?
Video 2: The ‘T’ asks what doesn’t N like at camp. N says there’s not one thing he doesn’t like there.
According to Jamie Bridgewater all the kids were abused by Gen. D & were fed spoiled food etc. (see Hill’s Oracle’s Daughter, chapter 32, pp. 234, 235: “Deborah FORCED the children to eat food that adults would never eat because it is spoiled or rotting…. the children are treated worst (sic) than animals…” She said this under oath – a BIG FAT LIER! But the State believed it & Deborah went to prison!
Conversation continues:
Video 3: The ‘T’ asks is any of the grownups smoke, N says NO WAY!, no drugs, none are drunks, they don’t do any of that or we would know right away, (sic) they could never hide it.
Assistant Notes: Video 4: The ‘T’ asks about rubbing grandpa’s feet, N said when we want to, we get to go down to the house & rub grandpa’s feet, he’s an old man, we like doing it because if we do it for an hour, we get a dollar.
10 – “P”: age 5: No comment
11 – “Z”: age 9: Video 2:
The ‘T’ asks about rubbing feet, Z says yeah we rub grandpa’s feet because he’s old & they’re going bad so we just rub his feet. The ‘T’ asks how that works, Z says Grandpa just asks the kids to rub his feet & they take off his shoes & rub them. the ‘T’ asks who’s around during that time if they rub anywhere else. Z say no, just his hands because they hurt sometimes. The ‘T’ asks if anyone else get their feet rubbed & says sometimes his mom rubs their feet because they’re tired.
Video 2: The ‘T’ asks about body safety, where it’s not ok for other people to look at or touch on, Z says your private parts. Nobody has touched his parts; nobody made him touch their parts & he hasn’t seen anyone touch someone else’s parts. The ‘T’ asks what would happen if that did happen, Z says it would never happen, but he would probably tell Momboo.
Video 3: She asks if someone had ever wanted to take pictures of him without clothes, Z says no; anybody that has ever done something to his body then told them to keep a secret, Z says no. The ‘T’ asks what would happen if that did happen, Z said tell Momboo, Gramps & dad. The ‘T’ asks if any of the other kids have ever had to do that, talk about that kinds of thing or any other kids told him that something like that ever happened, Z said no. If it did, he would tell Momboo.
Video 3: The ‘T’ asks about ranks, how that works, Z says when you hit 12 or 13, you get a rank (for kids). You work yourself up by an age number, Momboo & Gramps have two stars. The ‘T’ asks about what is the first rank you get, & starts to draw something on paper. Z says everyone has different ranks.
Video 3: The ‘T’ asks about what happens when they get older, who do they marry, Z says they don’t want to get married, that lots of people don’t get married. The ‘T’ asks “What about Joshua?” Z said he had a wife & when he went on a trip, he came back & she was gone. Her name was Phoebe. [note: her real name was Jamie Bridgewater. She asked Deborah to pray about a name change, as those wishing to change names. Deborah gave her Phoebe (aka Phebe, see Romans 16:1). The ‘T’ asks why she ran off, Z said she didn’t like it here. (note: She was the bossy type. The kids didn’t like her, she slapped them around & said harsh things to them. she was extremely jealous of Deborah – she wanted Joshua to submit to her, not to his mom, Gen. Deborah. She claims all kinds of evil things in Hill’s book done by Gen. D)
Conversation continues:
Right when they got married she started planning everything because she thought “E’ was something, the ‘T’ asks what is something, & Z says the cops think is in love with Josh. The ‘T’ asked how does he know that, Z says because that’s what the cops said, that’s what Phoebe told them. [note: this woman was a real snake. You can read emails between her & Deborah before she set foot in our camp. Since she said her mother was “of the devil”, it did not surprise us when she made up LIES on Gen. Deborah; her natural mother was of Satan; her spiritual mother was of Satan! See our PX5 Files under Jamie Bridgewater].
The ‘T’ asks if “E” loves anybody, Z says she loves everybody. The ‘T’ asks if there’s someone she wants to marry, & Z says she doesn’t want to get married because she deals with all the kids already.
So
So, you can see that no abuse took place in camp of any kind, yet Hill’s book is about child abuse etc. He believes what those EX-ACMTC members told him, without an ounce of proof. Sarah said half the men in camp were committing incest with these 11 children! So much for nonfiction writing.